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Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
37%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



claret on my shirt 2:25 Sun Feb 12
Snodgrass diving
Your a good player you play for West Ham now so please stop diving , you are better than that

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stomper 3:14 Sun Feb 12
Re: Snodgrass diving
Dont tell Carlton Cole

connolly8 10:38 Sun Feb 12
Re: Snodgrass diving
When did he dive?

Iron Duke 10:43 Sun Feb 12
Re: Snodgrass diving
So it's OK for physical teams like West Brom to kick lumps out of you all game, but you're not allowed to go down?

terry-h 11:05 Sun Feb 12
Re: Snodgrass diving
If this refers to his penalty claim just before halftime,the Albion centre back had his arm round his neck and back. Snodgrass was justified in going down. I've seen penalties given for a lot less but unfortunately we are not on the short list of clubs that refs favour.

El Scorchio 12:00 Sun Feb 12
Re: Snodgrass diving
Part of the game sadly. We're putting ourselves at a disadvantage by being honest. I don't like it but you get nothing for being the honourable loser by not doing it when everyone else is.

I agree with the comment about oppo teams kicking lumps out of us. It's happened 3-4 times this season. You sometimes have to fight fire with fire.

What maddens me is- as happened again yesterday- the oppo commit a string of hard intentional fouls on us with no card produced and then our very first mistimed tackle/foul which was a genuine attempt to win the ball produces a yellow.

Mad Dog 12:22 Sun Feb 12
Re: Snodgrass diving
I don't like players diving.
opposition or west ham ones.

gph 12:42 Sun Feb 12
Re: Snodgrass diving
I thought he went down to easily, but the MotD analysis was laughable, pointing out there was no contact between the players' legs when all the contact there was was much higher on their bodies

1307 1:05 Sun Feb 12
Re: Snodgrass diving
He is a diverse and we would be slating him if he played for WBA.

Chigwell 1:39 Sun Feb 12
Re: Snodgrass diving
terry-h wrote...
"..... Snodgrass was justified in going down......"

Sorry Terry, either you are tripped/knocked over or you stay on your feet. No-one is ever "justified" in diving, and referees should tell teams that if a player falls over too easily they are not going to award anything in his favour, even if he was in fact fouled. It just encourages cheating.

Alex V 1:41 Sun Feb 12
Re: Snodgrass diving
I have no major problem with diving. If you don't go to ground you can't win penalties or fouls.

The biggest most consistent diver in our team is Mark Noble. He dives every game to win cheap fouls. It's bizarre to read criticism of others for doing it when the captain is doing it all the time.

grasshopper 1:43 Sun Feb 12
Re: Snodgrass diving
Dont expect less from the championship quality SNODGRASS. Should play fernandes more

Ritchie9 1:59 Sun Feb 12
Re: Snodgrass diving
Like most people I don't like players diving, but if a player doesn't go down when fouled no penalty will be given, take the Stirling foul against Tottenham, the most blatant push in the back for a pen you'll ever see but because he didn't go to ground nothing was given and the yids ended up with a draw they never deserved. If the refs weren't so shit maybe players would be more honest in trying to stay on their feet.

madeeasy 2:17 Sun Feb 12
Re: Snodgrass diving
Mad Dog 12:22 Sun Feb 12

I would rather have less penalties than be part of one of todays problems in the game.

I wold be quite happy for them to ban him for 3 games for going down like that. As long as they retrospectively did it for evenryone else.

Why do they not stamp down on this, as it is such an easy thing to eradictae from the game.

icwhs 2:36 Sun Feb 12
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Ritchie9 1:59 Sun Feb 12
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Any Old Iron 2:36 Sun Feb 12
Re: Snodgrass diving
Reply Alex V 1:41 Sun Feb 12

"I have no major problem with diving. If you don't go to ground you can't win penalties or fouls".

Of all the hundreds of daft comments you've written, this one is right up there with the daftest.
Most penalties are awarded when a player has been genuinely tripped and couldn't stay on their feet even if they wanted to. These players are not diving and 'going to ground'.
If everyone were to dive the game would become impossible to referee and unwatchable. Players fall over all too easily these days and refs have to be strong to prevent it getting out of control.
And yes, Noble does buy cheap free kicks and I wish he'd stop it. But because he's so fucking slow it's a method he's developed to get himself out of trouble.

Sven Roeder 3:19 Sun Feb 12
Re: Snodgrass diving
I thought the player stood on his foot as he tried to run into the box and may even had a hand on his shoulder
I don't mind what the interpretations are as long as they are the same for all teams
The impression is that some offences are pens for some and not for others
Looked like about 3 pens Son or Alli have 'won' for Spurs this season

El Scorchio 3:39 Sun Feb 12
Re: Snodgrass diving
No-one ever moaned about Payet diving when he was playing for us.

Tomsdad 3:49 Sun Feb 12
Re: Snodgrass diving
If that had been Kane yesterday, it would have been given and the Calleri one as well!

charlie paynter 3:54 Sun Feb 12
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Alex V 1:41 Sun Feb 12
Re: Snodgrass diving

'I have no major problem with diving. If you don't go to ground you can't win penalties or fouls'.

I can't stand this attitude. You shouldn't be out to 'win' penalties or free kicks in the first place. they happen or they don't. I don't like divers, one of the blights of the modern game

El Scorchio 4:14 Sun Feb 12
Re: Snodgrass diving
It is one of the blights of the modern game and I don't like it, but the fact is you're putting yourself at a disadvantage by being honourable and not joining in with that behaviour.

I don't really want to see any West Ham players diving, but I'm sick of seeing opposition players during our matches, and other teams doing it in televised matches all the time and reaping the benefits. I'm tired of seeing us being on the wrong end of situations where an opposing player has cheated and got a goal from it, or we've done the right or honourable thing and suffered from it.

Until such time as they work out how to prevent it or deal with it, then to be frank, we're only shooting ourselves in the foot- and what's the point in taking the moral high ground from the bottom half of the league table? I'm more upset about losing than I am over one of our players taking a tumble to win a free kick or a penalty.

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